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Post by whitefang on Jun 6, 2019 5:43:25 GMT -5
With the 50th anniversary of the huge outdoor event looming you'll see some TV outlets( more likely public television) showing the academy award winning documentary from '70. And just recently( Tuesday night) TURNER CLASSIC MOVIES showed the "Director's cut" of the documentary, whci included some extra footage not seen in the original theatrical release. I had a different idea(which nobody will likely listent to or do )....... Put together a multi-DVD set of ALL the footage of ALL the filmed performances of ALL those who performed at the event and have too, a full day, or multi- day media presentation presentation. Then we all might, along with still others, see performances like THESE......... Or....... And even.... I just think it only fair that everybody gets represented. Whitefang
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Post by JamesP on Jun 6, 2019 9:08:16 GMT -5
How about Jimi playing the National Anthem in the rain:
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Post by jbone on Jun 6, 2019 11:39:03 GMT -5
I was not at Woodstock, narrowly missed a chance. Probably for the best, my young mind may have never recovered! I was at Summer Jam '73, at Watkins Glen race track, which is where the 50th anniversary show is slated to take place. No plans to attend the 50th.
Last week Jo wanted to see Woodstock NY, which is close to where the actual event took place, so we did a day trip. The town is a cutesie little yuppie commercial enterprise these days. We did not linger. Coming back, we headed through the Catskills and had a wonderful afternoon drive through the green mountains.
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Post by whitefang on Jun 7, 2019 6:13:12 GMT -5
That may have been nice, but...... ah, well...... I never understood why the event was given he name WOODSTOCK as it took place in BETHEL NY. Back then, we figured it was because Woodstock, NY is where BOB DYLAN was supposed to be living then. Anyway....... Me and some buddies tried getting out there, but got no further than 'bout a mile out of TOLEDO, OHIO----when my buddy's piece of crap car died. We had to wait 7 HOURS for his brother to pick us up and go back home. BTW DOC, Jimi Hendrix didn't play the anthem in the rain. See?----- We saw him at Detroit's Cobo arena later that year and he played it there too. A bit differently of course. But not much. Whitefang
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Post by JamesP on Jun 8, 2019 12:56:25 GMT -5
Oh well, the mud
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Post by whitefang on Jun 9, 2019 6:42:31 GMT -5
Watched my copy of "The Director's Cut" last night with my daughter and the man in her life now. Both in their 40's, she's seen the movie before, but he never has, and knew little about the historic festival. Needless to say, he was surprised and somewhat impressed. For example.... He knew who some of the artists were, but never saw them looking so YOUNG! He's only(up till then) seen Carlos Santana in recent years, and never without some silly hat, and HEARD Joe Cocker before, but never saw his histrionic performance! He was impressed with ALVIN LEE too, having never heard of TEN YEARS AFTER before. And like earlier said, he was amused by Cocker's stage antics, which IMHO rose "Air guitar" to an ART FORM! Whitefang
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Post by whitefang on Jun 10, 2019 5:48:54 GMT -5
My daughter quipped that he was probably more impressed with all the female nudity seen in it. (I'd have posed a clip, but for that content I'd have to "sign in" and I didn't want to mess with all that.) Any other thoughts...? Whitefang
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Post by whitefang on Jun 13, 2019 6:21:49 GMT -5
I'm shocked that his astute and august gathering has nothing more to say on the subject of this historic event. It's music, the following documentary, or it's impact on you, or on society in general. You do recall for a while( and even still) it was a defining event in many of us's generation. Like, we were no longer just "boomers", or even "commie, pinko hippies", but we became "The Woodstock Generation." And the documentary had such an impact on me I made several trips to downtown Detroit's Madison theater(which had the proper sound system) FIVE TIMES to see that thing. I missed the MONTEREY POP movie, which, IMHO, wasn't as landmark an event or film as Woodstock. Whitefang
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Post by jbone on Jun 13, 2019 7:17:56 GMT -5
Of course I saw the movie a time or two. More importantly I had the album. The music ushered in a new attitude for me. I had never heard that many different styles and stuff played the way guys like Havens, CSN, Hendrix, Cocker, and all played them. At the time I was still trying to get my head around the Beatles and that was a lot!
I saw a lot of strange people coming through my home town on the way there or back during that time. I had cousins who went but saw little of them after the fact. They did have tales to tell.
I just read the other day that Watkins Glen turned down the option of hosting the 50th anniversary show. Not a surprise considering events of 5 years later. Summer Jam '73 was a weekend event featuring The Band, Allman Brothers, and the Grateful Dead. The promoters insured for 10,000 attendees and then sold hundreds of thousands of tickets. Estimates later had the total of people heading to the venue- most of whom did not make it- at well over 1 million people on the roads in the northeast. The village of Watkins Glen, about 8 miles from the racetrack where the event was held, was totally overcome. Homeowners, business owners, police, EMS, all had tales to tell, from campers on their lawns to outright theft and open sales and use of drugs in public. The event was a disaster from a municipal standpoint, and lawsuits took years to settle, and changed the way these events were dealt with across the country. I was at that venue for 2 days. At 18 my mind was pretty blown by all the wild things I was seeing: nudity, drugs everywhere, and the people! More people than I had ever seen. The closest I got to the main stage was between 1/4 and 1/2 mile away, and between me and it was a true sea of humans. The bands were microscopic, the noise level was stunning between stage volume and the roar of the crowd. I had been to Watkins Glen racetrack a few times to watch races. Never had there been a crowd of that size there. Estimates were at 400,000 people on the premises over about 5 days. The Sunday following the concert, after everyone left, the area looked like a war zone. People left all manner of stuff behind, from tents and chairs, to coolers, wallets, clothes, even a few cars and vans. It took a while to get the place cleaned up. The public outcry was huge.
I have no idea where the promoters are hoping to hold the 50th. What I saw of the lineup did not much speak to me a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by jmuscara on Jun 14, 2019 4:37:35 GMT -5
I'm shocked that his astute and august gathering has nothing more to say on the subject of this historic event. It's music, the following documentary, or it's impact on you, or on society in general. Well, if I had been at Woodstock, I would have looked something like this. (Go to around 2:15 if the video doesn't start there itself.) [Homer, not Abe.]
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Post by whitefang on Jun 14, 2019 5:56:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember that SIMPSONS episode. Y'know, out of all the additional footage stuffed into the "director's cut" of the documentary, I personally could have done without--- The CANNED HEAT footage, as (and as one who's seen them live shortly before this festival took place) it wasn't a good example of how GOOD they were as a live band. Surely, that couldn't have been the best footage of that set! The JEFFERSON AIRPLANE footage was a wash too, along with the footage of Jourma Kaukonen doing a solo act, showing he not only wasn't the "great" guitarist too many thought him, but also couldn't carry a tune in a battleship! And for my money they could have booted the JOHN SEBASTIAN footage in exchange for the JOHNNY WINTER footage I posted up there. Or at least added it for the "director's cut". Whitefang
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Post by jmuscara on Jun 15, 2019 5:50:04 GMT -5
After all these years, I've never seen the full movie, in any version. I did see the Monterey Pop movie though. Man, the Mamas and the Papas are NOT my thing. Some of the other performances were really cool though.
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Post by whitefang on Jun 16, 2019 5:48:47 GMT -5
It was rather amazing how much the music had changed by the time Woodstock took place from what it was at Monterey. Even by some(a few) of the artists who performed at both. It does have probably the last footage ever of OTIS REDDING performing, who sadly died just six months after that event. That LP of his and JIMI HENDRIX's Monterey performances was released THREE YEARS after Otis died, and Otis fans snatched it up soon as it hit the shelves! Whitefang
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Post by whitefang on Aug 6, 2019 11:52:35 GMT -5
So, with only 9 days left before the official 50th anniversary dates, it's worth noting that since the 50th anniversary festival has been cancelled that it makes the original event that more significant, as it did happen. Whitefang
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 13:10:29 GMT -5
It’s best, not to recreate something that was already great!
There had been talk about holding it at Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia Maryland, but they have other events going on at the same time.
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