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Post by jbone on Sept 26, 2019 15:34:01 GMT -5
re: unique voices, George Jones.
I wonder if different regions are getting different episodes? Last night here they covered Hank Jr. in depth. Vince Gill. Travis Tritt. Dwight Yoakum. The Ryders.
All in all I doubt any one documentary can cover all the pivotal people in a genre. But having a Marsalis comment, and even a sort of crossover guy like the dude from Hootie and the Blowfish, that makes a difference in my view. Also Roseanne Cash, Emmy Lou Harris and others.I am finding a new appreciation and respect for a lot of these cats, not all but most. They all paid some dues to get on stages and be heard. Many of them just never gave up. Personally I can't imagine hanging out in Nashville for 10 years trying to get noticed.
The whole Nashville thing seems to have come about because some guys wanted to sell insurance on the radio. Later on the Studio producers had a say in what got played. People forgot where the real POP came from. "Country" music has been a melting pot. Blues, Gospel, train songs, English ballads, and a ton of other stuff, in whole or in pieces, have made up the stew that became what we heard on jukeboxes and radios for decades.
I have been having a sort of epiphany about my early perceptions of country music. I somehow got the idea it was "beneath me" to like what I was hearing when I was a kid, on radios, juke boxes, and even on TV. My people liked big band and show tunes. My gramps played a lot of stuff on harmonica including blues, ballads, marching songs, and who knows what all. I don't recall any Jimmy Rogers. My hometown was both wannabe cosmopolitan and very provincial. My older sisters were confirmed Beach Boys and folk duo fans. And ironically, my parents hung out at the Moose Lodge and other ubiquitous road houses and played stuff like Charlie Pride and George Jones on the jukes. Not to mention Jimmy Reed and Eddie Albert. Long story short I was not well connected to the music that helped birth rock and roll, and very UNversed for years when it came to blues. Kind of all of a sudden one day the Brit Invasion got me back in touch with some form of blues, and later even with country.
This iteration of facts and opinions on the roots music of the past 70 or 80 years is and I think will continue to be an eye opener for the likes of me. I know when you think you really know something, you are destined to find out how much you DON'T know.
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Post by earleg on Sept 26, 2019 18:11:45 GMT -5
Saw tonight's installment of Mr. Burns' doc. I doubt anybody could do a better job. Know what would be REALLY cool? If he does one on the Blues. That would really be great!
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Post by earleg on Sept 26, 2019 18:16:53 GMT -5
We recorded several so far. I've only finished the one through 1953. The photos they show are really good and maybe some or most were reworked and enhanced to sharpen the images. At any rate the photos are really fine.
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Post by jbone on Sept 26, 2019 19:57:35 GMT -5
The film footage and the interviews with artists both old and young are priceless too.
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Post by whitefang on Sept 27, 2019 9:48:35 GMT -5
But still, as I mentioned, Burns did pass on some people and things. Like mention of prolific songwriter( and mostly a country singer/songwriter although some rock and blues guys did a few of his tunes) JOHN D. LOUDERMILK, or how HANK WILLIAMS JR. providing the vocals for his father's songs in the movie YOUR CHEATIN' HEART helped spring him to prominence that crossed over the borders of just country music lovers. And what about some "icons" younger siblings? All I can think of is CRYSTAL GAYLE, Loretta Lynn's kid sister. But as I don't routinely listen to country music I'm certain there could be others whose older brothers or sisters were big names in the genre before them.
But before the documentary, I had no idea what Johnny Cash's first wife looked like. Now I've come to realize that whenever I was looking at Roseanne Cash, I WAS looking at her Mother! Whitefang
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 11:57:58 GMT -5
Well I watched the whole series on PBS, 8-2 hour shows. I was happy with it, I knew most of the stuff from back in the day. But it was something to watch. For most of the rest of TV programming I keep it turned off. I like PBS, we have 5 PBS channels here in the Phoenix area over the air. I also like some of the stuff like the masked singer, and bring the funny. Or anything to do with non drama comedy. Once in a while I can find something on one of the 36 channels we get over the air. But mostly I watch PBS on the big screen or comedies on my I-pad with Netflix or Amazon Prime.
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Post by jbone on Sept 27, 2019 23:07:37 GMT -5
Got to see most of the concert last evening. Great stuff.
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Post by whitefang on Sept 28, 2019 9:31:13 GMT -5
DBM: FIVE PBS channels? I used to get two thru my cable service, but since 90% of the time they showed the same thing at the same time, WOW dropped the other for a shopping network. Now it's just the Detroit outlet. Like watching comedies on your iPad? What a coincidence..... One of the funniest things I ever saw was somebody watching television on an iPad! Ah, well.... "to each" and all that... Whitefang
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 12:06:39 GMT -5
I remember Buck from Hee Haw. Which was pretty corny stuff mostly- pun intended. To find out he brought about that Bakersfield sound was pretty cool. One guy Mr. Burns has not touched on-who was coincidentally also a Hee Haw alum- and could play probably any instrument as well- is Roy Clark. Dude was a monster in the genre. I watched Hee Haw every night that I was at home and it was on. I never missed that or The Opry, or The Porter Waggoner Shows either. I was never a big fan of the front men, I was way more interested in the side men. There was also a talk show on country music with a lady and gentleman, I forget the name of that show but I watched it to see the guests.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 12:15:18 GMT -5
DBM: FIVE PBS channels? I used to get two thru my cable service, but since 90% of the time they showed the same thing at the same time, WOW dropped the other for a shopping network. Now it's just the Detroit outlet. Like watching comedies on your iPad? What a coincidence..... One of the funniest things I ever saw was somebody watching television on an iPad! Ah, well.... "to each" and all that... Whitefang Yep we have 5 PBS channels over the air PBS, PBS Life, Pbs World, PBS Kids, and PBS Classical Music which is sound only with local pictures of Arizona showing as the music plays.
I watch the i-Pad because I hate broadcast TV except for the PBS channels, you can select through current or older shows, and the wife whose taste in TV differs from mine in many ways, can watch her i-Pad or the TV, and I put on headphones when she is on her i-pad or on the TV. The i-pad is pretty useful for drowning out the emotional drivel I hear coming from the TV shows she watches. Sometimes I also listen to my MP3 player to drown out the silly dialog coming from her favorite broadcast TV programs.
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Post by whitefang on Oct 2, 2019 10:05:52 GMT -5
I guess it all depends on what's used for television outlet and such. My "basic" cable package has enough choices to enable me to find decent programming to watch. Plus it's a taste thing too probably.... I spend a lot of time looking in on stations that offer "retro" TV programming, and also spend much viewing time with Turner Classic Movies. I have no access to HBO and any of those other "premium" channels that cost up to $20 a month. And I don't bother with services that depend on satellite dishes set on the roof of the house. I've seen how it looks from friends and family members who have those services and don't like what I see. I rarely get into the old "big three" networks(ABC, NBC, CBS) save for evening news and a few (very few) programs. And in the Detroit area cable services still carry CBC (which was channel 9 in the "day") which I tune into for one of my favorite Canadian comedies, "SCHITT'S CREEK" with Catherine O'Hara and Eugene Levy (from SCTV). Whitefang
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Post by jbone on Oct 2, 2019 10:11:47 GMT -5
To me regular network- antenna type- TV is about the same as 100 cable channels of which we have little use for 80 of them. We get about 18 channels here and about half are worthwhile. 4 PBS channels, one of which s kids, and one is cooking. The other two have some decent stuff.
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Post by whitefang on Oct 3, 2019 10:03:25 GMT -5
Our one PBS station divides all that at different times of the day. Children's programming in the morning, cooking and other marginal interest programming in the afternoon, News at about 5:00pm to 7:00pm( in conjunction with local and other network news) and the better quality programming in "prime time". Anyway------- As this is a thread about the country music documentary, it appeared on PBS just a hair before huge TV commercial promotions for the huge country music "Chillaxification" tour. Coincidence? I wonder ............. And to enforce a point I was trying to make a bit earlier, all the quick shots of the various artists performing on this tour almost look like the same ONE GUY posing for all the shots! Right down to the blue jeans, T-shirt and COWBOY BOOTS AND HAT he was wearing!(even all sounded like the same guy ) Whitefang
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 15:01:47 GMT -5
Our one PBS station divides all that at different times of the day. Children's programming in the morning, cooking and other marginal interest programming in the afternoon, News at about 5:00pm to 7:00pm( in conjunction with local and other network news) and the better quality programming in "prime time"- Our PBS station 8.1 is like the one you mentioned in the quote above, then there is PBS World 8.2 which plays some of the stuff from 8.1, but a whole other bunch of stuff not on 8.1 Then there is 8.3 PBS World, which shows a whole different line of programs than the standard 8.1, PBS Kids 8.4 plays cartoons 24/7 way more than the daytime stuff in 8.1. And 8.5 is classical music only and shows local Arizona pictures. My point is the other 4 channels play a whole host of different things then the standard 8.1 shows.
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Post by jbone on Oct 3, 2019 21:26:25 GMT -5
"Right down to the blue jeans, T-shirt and COWBOY BOOTS AND HAT he was wearing!(even all sounded like the same guy )" Whitefang
Kind of like how every other blues rock band in Dallas in the 80's/90's was all about pompadours, pointy Italian shoes, and bowling shirts?
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