Christmas greet

[whitefang]

All this really proves is we've had different experiences with the world of medicine (doctors and such). So, does the book you mention also add that there are people who have gluten tolerance problems that aren't connected to Celiac disease? And that often many of those cases are really an irritable bowel syndrome issue that's NOT connected to gluten(meaning a misdiagnosis)? And too, that wheat isn't the only source for gluten?

I'm not defending it, don't get me wrong. but caution must be taken with any suggestions that a singular approach is the panacea for everyone's health problems. I think of the myriad of health problems my nephew faced from following the ADKINS diet faithfully. And I'm really more interested in how successfully you've been at avoiding all wheat products. I'm reminded of when I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia in the '70's and read the book "Sugar Blues" by William Dufty. Trying to avoid foods either containing sugar or processed with sugar was extremely difficult due to it being in damn near everything. And THEN there's the carbohydrates, even in many vegetables(celery is one) that contain "empty" calorie carbs that the body converts into sugar. But it's not the sugar per se that's the enemy. It's the AMOUNT of sugar ingested. We all know too much of anything isn't good. Even that which is believed to be good for you.

Whitefang

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I believe that the Grain Brain book is scientifically accurate. I am not a "believer" in myths like most folks are, however if I do see something that is documented and accurate and is corroborated by proven science, I may follow it's suggestions. Which I do. I am not selling anything to anyone. If you like wheat products enough, go on and use them.

I saw Dr Perlmutter on TV several times, and he suggested that no matter how your body reacts, there are certain things that happen in the blood stream to those folks who do use wheat and gluten. I absolutely have confidence in what I read in his book. Not because I had an opinion on it myself, but because it is scientifically proven in universality studies by actual scientists.

So of course it is also in the genetics just how bad the individuals reaction might be. I have a friend here in my community that is over 95 years old and he eats the S.A.D diet (standard American diet). He seems healthy enough to me, so genetics has a lot to do with the results of diet. As for me, I try and educate myself using credible sources. I do take one prescription blood pressure pill daily. Other than that, a baby aspirin is all I use for a blood thinner, not because I am suffering from blood that needs a thinner, but because my cardiologist suggested it. I have had the angiogram test where they go in an artery in the thigh and look at your arteries and veins from the inside, and I only had 15% to 30% blockages in the blood vessels. I absolutely think that my diet choices are responsible for my good health and longevity so far. My father died at 67 years old, I beat that by 10 years so far, and I am shooting for my 85th birthday to equal my mother at least. and I think I may make it that far and beyond, and I am convinced that diet and daily exercise are responsible for my good health so far.

[whitefang]

I don't count too much on genetics, although it would be good to count on them (in a way) For instance...

My Grandmother on my Mother's side died at 86, her oldest brother at 89. However, her younger brother died at 57. And on my Father's side, my Grandfather made it to 84 by also being much overweight most of his life. I have no idea when my Father died( having never met him and never knowing where he lived from year to year). So I have no idea what to make from any of that. BTW: My Mom died 20 years ago at age 73.

But "proven science" isn't always reliable either(in some cases) To whit...
Most medical practices become routine because their effects have been "proven science", meaning they were effective within the study of them. However....

She wouldn't like me to reveal this, but then again, she might not mind. But, for the last 14 years of her life my wife suffered from urinary incontinence. She went through five urologists, all who insisted by applying the "scientifically proven" treatments but having no success with them. They were ALL at a loss then(from what I call "chart medicine") and spent the rest of her life with the condition. It's one of the main reasons I'm skeptical of anyone or anything that seems to promote a "solution". And too, it's not a matter of "liking" wheat "products" or not. Like sugar in food processing it's hard to avoid. But then, sugar has more immediate negative effects than wheat and gluten. And again, it's NOT only wheat that contains gluten. to whit:

he list of gluten-containing grains doesn’t end at wheat. Other offenders are:

barley
bulgur
oats (oats themselves don’t contain gluten, but are often processed in facilities that produce gluten-containing grains and may be contaminated)
rye
seitan
triticale and Mir (a cross between wheat and rye)
Gluten may also show up as an ingredient in:

barley malt
chicken broth
malt vinegar
some salad dressings
veggie burgers (if not specified gluten-free)
soy sauce
seasonings and spice mixes
soba noodles
condiments

So---- Happy hunting!
Whitefang

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whitefang, I have no problem picking out foods. I do not eat much of anything prepared by a food company. I do not eat much of anything from a can, nor from the frozen food isle (except the frozen strawberries and blueberries that I buy for green drink smoothies). I buy most of my stuff from the produce isle and do buy some pre packaged organically grown turkey lunch meat, and some frozen meats, (most organically grown) and some organic turkey bacon. I do not shop at super markets I shop mostly at Trader Joe's, and at a regional market called Sprouts. Once in a while I will stop in a Fry's Market which is part of the Kroger supermarket chain out west here and get stuff from their organic department. Just trying to chart my own course and live a longer and healthier life with wholesome food choices, and daily exercise.

[whitefang]

Whatever works for you is fine. There's no "Trader Joe's" near enough to me to insure the food will still be fresh by the time I get it home. Anyway.....

That's what you get for not watching a lot of TV. The big health concern now seems to be....

Getting enough "free testosterone" in order to be man enough to choose "the best catheter for you!"

I remember in the '70's when we first heard of a product called "Turkey Ham". I thought it was OK. And it's amazing to see how turkey based "faux" meats have expanded. Turkey bacon(which I can take or leave), turkey breakfast sausage( and there's chicken sausage too), and even a product my ancestors are surely spinning in their graves about---

TURKEY KEILBASA!

Since my TIA I've switched to mostly those, and "fat free" and low sodium foods, "light" foods and a product(potassium based) "Nu Salt".

Pierogi dolloped with fat free sour cream just ain't the same. I also use ground turkey as a base of my spaghetti sauce.
Whitefang