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Post by Admin on Dec 11, 2013 23:03:05 GMT -5
Let's put together a survey / nomination of your all-time favorite jazz artists that would constitute your dream group.
Piano (nominate 1)
Cornet/ttumpet (nominate 2)
Alto sax (nominate 2)
Tenor sax (nominatee 2)
Bari sax (nominate 1)
Bass (nominate 1)
Guitar (nominate 1)
Drums (nominate 1)
Clarinet (nominate 0 - 1)
Trombone (nominate 0 - 1)
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Post by Admin on Dec 11, 2013 23:22:46 GMT -5
I'll start with some that I feel are no-brainers for me personally. Some I have to really think about. Piano (nominate 1) Art Tatum Cornet/trumpet (nominate 2) Miles Davis Louis Armstrong Alto sax (nominate 2) Charlie Parker Cannonball Adderley Tenor sax (nominatee 2) John Coltrane Coleman Hawkins Bari sax (nominate 1) Harry Carney Bass (nominate 1) Charles Mingus Guitar (nominate 1) Wes Montgomery Drums (nominate 1) Gene Krupa Clarinet (nominate 0 - 1) Bennie Goodman Trombone (nominate 0 - 1) Jack Teagarden |
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Post by billf on Dec 12, 2013 5:40:17 GMT -5
Nice choices, Jim, and I'm sure, despite the variety of styles, they'd get something together.
Being realistic, I'm keeping my selection to living guys who've worked together, so it's:
Jim Rotondi (tpt), Mike DiRubbo (alt), Eric Alexander (tnr), Gary Smulyan (bar), Harold Mabern (pno), Peter Washington (bs), Kenny Washington (dms).
Diving back into history, I'd like to hear the tantalisingly imperfect Bird and the Herd done properly, so it would be the Four Brothers Herd (with Getz, Sims, Cohn and Chaloff) with Charlie Parker as guest artist, arrangements by Shorty Rogers and properly recorded in a studio.
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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2013 11:50:18 GMT -5
Nice choices, Jim, and I'm sure, despite the variety of styles, they'd get something together. Being realistic, I'm keeping my selection to living guys who've worked together, so it's: Jim Rotondi (tpt), Mike DiRubbo (alt), Eric Alexander (tnr), Gary Smulyan (bar), Harold Mabern (pno), Peter Washington (bs), Kenny Washington (dms). Diving back into history, I'd like to hear the tantalisingly imperfect Bird and the Herd done properly, so it would be the Four Brothers Herd (with Getz, Sims, Cohn and Chaloff) with Charlie Parker as guest artist, arrangements by Shorty Rogers and properly recorded in a studio. Bill, obviously your selections make more sense than mine based on their styles. I have edited my choices numerous times as I went through the selection process. smiley-laughing024 It's extremely difficult to come up with any list - you always feel you're leaving out someone who is more deserving. I have struggled with my list and the obvious omissions - Duke Ellington, Dave Brubeck, Sonny Rollins, Thelonious Monk, Art Blakey, Max Roach, and Count Basie, just to name a few. And then there are the vocalists - Lady Day, Ella Fitzgerald, et al. So, I guess that's why we aren't getting much activity on this thread. As you say, too many different styles, personalities, etc. for a group to really make sense. Can't you just imagine Bennie Goodman playing alongside Bird? And would Miles Davis really share the limelight with Louis Armstrong? smiley-laughing024 |
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Post by billf on Dec 12, 2013 12:18:53 GMT -5
Yes, there are limits to the right company in jazz. I recently read the autobiography of British altoist Peter King, who regarded himself as pretty flexible, but was once asked to play in a Sammy Price group. When Price called "Aunt Hagar's Blues", bopper King was floored!  |
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Post by johnt on Dec 12, 2013 15:51:44 GMT -5
Well yes, if this is a group that has to be stylistically compatible (and all alive at the same time), that makes it a little tougher.
Piano - Oscar Peterson (on deck - Kenny Barron)
Trumpets - Dizzy Gillespie, Clifford Brown
Alto Sax - Charlie Parker, Phil Woods (just under the wire for Parker, if not him, then Jackie McLean)
Tenor Sax - Stan Getz, Coleman Hawkins (with Lester Young in the wings, waiting to blow)
Baritone Saxophone - Pepper Adams
Trombone - J.J. Johnson
Clarinet - Buddy DeFranco
Bass - Ray Brown
Guitar - Joe Pass
Drums - Max Roach (Buddy Rich would be my first choice normally, but not sure he's totally compatible with this group).
plus Milt Jackson on vibes
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Post by billf on Dec 12, 2013 16:07:25 GMT -5
Norman Granz had most of them on his books. If only we could manage time travel, John!
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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2013 16:09:24 GMT -5
That is indeed an interesting and wonderful lineup John. All are excellent choices - but I guess I didn't see the big band sound as being in Bird's wheelhouse. I know he was involved in the swing era, so I guess it makes sense.
Thanks for contributing. smiley-eatdrink004
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Post by tom1960 on Dec 12, 2013 21:33:36 GMT -5
My turn to weigh in. I happened to run across this thread while at home for lunch. When I returned to work outside delivering the mail in what can be best described as frigid temperatures, I gave this thread some serious thought. To keep my mind off the fact I was cold, this was an excellent diversion.
piano - Bud Powell
trumpets - Clifford Brown, Lee Morgan
alto saxes - Charlie Parker, Cannonball Adderley
tenor saxes - John Coltrane, Dexter Gordon
baritone sax - Gerry Mulligan
bass - Charles Mingus
guitar - Wes Montgomery
drums - Roy Haynes
trombone - Curtis Fuller
vibes - Milt Jackson
I'm not sure how well these guys would blend together? But then again, it's my dream band.
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Post by Admin on Dec 12, 2013 22:11:51 GMT -5
My turn to weigh in. I happened to run across this thread while at home for lunch. When I returned to work outside delivering the mail in what can be best described as frigid temperatures, I gave this thread some serious thought. To keep my mind off the fact I was cold, this was an excellent diversion. piano - Bud Powell trumpets - Clifford Brown, Lee Morgan alto saxes - Charlie Parker, Cannonball Adderley, tenor saxes - John Coltrane, Dexter Gordon baritone sax - Gerry Mulligan bass - Charles Mingus guitar - Wes Montgomery drums - Roy Haynes trombone - Curtis Fuller vibes - Milt Jackson I'm not sure how well these guys would blend together? But then again, it's my dream band. Great lineup Tom. But, just out of curiousity, why no Miles Davis? After all, he is your avatar. But then again, I chose Wes Montgomery on guitar with Chester as my avatar and mentor. |
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Post by billf on Dec 13, 2013 4:26:38 GMT -5
Why no Miles? 'Cos Clifford 'n Lee would blow him off the stand! smiley-laughing024
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Post by tom1960 on Dec 13, 2013 13:44:45 GMT -5
While no Miles? No offense to Miles and being the huge fan that I am. Simply put, Lee Morgan was especially in the early years a disciple of Clifford and it really would have been amazing had Clifford lived, that these two powergouses could have teamed up.
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Post by Admin on Dec 14, 2013 11:46:51 GMT -5
This thread, if nothing else, has made me really think about my likes and lesser likes  in jazz music. I guess I must admit I have a lesser like for strong brass in jazz. I'm more of a piano/guitar/sax combo kind of guy. Now, before you begin the flaming, let me state, I love all forms of jazz (and most other music as well - well, perhaps Rap less than others). smiley-laughing024 So, when I begin to think about trumpet players, I guess I must admit, I'm a little prejudiced toward those that use a mute more than not! I think I'll begin to more fully describe my selections, beginning with the brass section (Trumpets and Trombones). But for now, I have to run out for a bit, so while I'm gone, I'll really give this some deep thought. I would love to have others jump in and tell us why you feel the way you do about your brass guys. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 14, 2013 16:30:38 GMT -5
I'll start with Louis Armstrong
Where it all began!
The line-up of the Creole Jazz band included Joe Oliver; cornet, Louis Armstrong; 2nd. cornet, Honore Dutrey; trombone. Johnny Dodds; clarinet. Stump Evans; C.Mel. saxophone. Lil Harding/Armstrong; piano. Bill Johnson; bass. Johnny St.Cyr; banjo/guitar. and Baby Dodds; drums.
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Post by billf on Dec 14, 2013 17:23:25 GMT -5
As Clifford and Lee have been ranged against Miles  , I think we'd better give Fats a look in too: |
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in jazz music.
, I think we'd better give Fats a look in too: