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Post by jbone on Aug 21, 2020 8:47:49 GMT -5
Having not heard you how can I compliment you? Any input DB? You have been very kind to Jo and me and I believe it's from your heart and from your experience in the mess we call music. I would like to hear what You do and have done.
I'd rather get no compliments than any false ones, which I have had though it's been a long time ago. "Don't humor me, tell me the truth", is my motto.
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Post by whitefang on Aug 21, 2020 11:00:46 GMT -5
HA! Remember when you( or somebody) thought you were so "cool" when you picked up "Walk, Don't Run"? Or discovered the Am-G-F-E progression you THOUGHT was right wasn't?  Whitefang I never got that he is "cool" because of my playing compliment. Other players either thought I sucked or did not want to compliment me (I come from a highly competitive area for guitarists), and no one wanted to compliment anyone else, (I assume competitive jealousy is the cause for the latter). I still to this day never get much of a compliment from the other players from my era/area. I only play for my own amusement, if I was a serious performer wannabe, I would have to practice a whole bunch more to get by without too many clams, and a more fluency and smoothness in my playing that only comes with serious practice.
I do get some great feedback from the player forums and the guys/gals on them, but not a single bit of compliment from the local yokels of my home area.
If you look back at my quoted post up there, you'll notice I wrote; "Remember when YOU thought you were so "cool"(etc.) ......." In other words, that great feeling of accomplishment at having picked up how to play what was once considered the "coolest" guitar tune back in the "day". I don't know just where you come from, but they all sound as if they're so tight-assed that when they pass gas it makes such a high pitched sound it shatters glass,  anyway..... I too, just noodle around for my own fun and pleasure, but always trying to improve nonetheless. And I still can't get past 20-30 minutes of endurance since the mini stroke 6 years ago. But, it always used to tickle me back at the old MUSIC PLAYER forum when the guy who goes by FRED C would get pissed at me(usually for no good reason) and thought he was insulting me by calling me a "hack". Actually, the FIRST person in that forum to call me a "hack" was ME! I never made out that I was better than I was or than anyone else. No doubt, compared to probably most members of that group "hack" was the best description I could give myself. Whitefang |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 16:29:47 GMT -5
@fangster, I grew up on Long Beach Island New Jersey, and during the hippy years there were a lot of guys that took up guitar as well as other instruments, it was highly competitive as to playing ability back then.
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Post by whitefang on Aug 28, 2020 9:40:42 GMT -5
Sure, I get the surge in guitar playing. Seemed like since the mid '60's( and "Beatlemania" on top of the big folk craze in the early part of the decade) every other kid on the block was banging away on some kind of guitar. Either cheap or good quality. And almost every other block had a "basement band"( "garage bands" in my town came later when more and more homes started providing electric power to their garages. But when I was in the bands I was in none of the members lived in homes with garages that had power. So we were "basement" bands. Now... I understand competition, but most of the guys I knew would never go so far as to tell another fledgling guitar player they "suck". Even when they did. We thought it best to offer constructive criticism. After all... in the "basement band" era, personnel changes had high turnover and maybe that guy you might have told that he "sucks" might have improved to the point he'd be an asset to your band, but would likely then tell y'all to "F**K off!" And your band would be stuck and hard pressed to find a suitable replacement. Didn't those guys in Jersey think ahead? Or, at all? Whitefang |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 16:49:10 GMT -5
@ Fangster I never had anyone tell me that I sucked. It was just the macho male competitive syndrome where no one complimented each other (Other guitarists). I got lots of good feedback from other types of instrument players.
Below is 2 pictures of my band The Brant Beach Blues and Boogie Band, at my then best friends garage/sheet metal shop. Me on guitar, and the guy with his back to the camera is Billy "Big Bottom" Budd on bass. I played with Billy in several bands, we were kind of musical partners for along while, the marriage, jobs, kids got in the way and we eventually drifted away from playing together. Rob Roth on Keys (Now an Architect), Mark on Vocals, and Bob on drums, I don't remember Mark and Bob's last names, and never saw them again a few months after that gig. I did see Billy at my last visit back east August of 19.
That guitar I was playing an Ibanez Artist was one of the best guitars I ever owned (and absolutely the best looking guitar I ever owned, I gave it to my kiddo when I bought a Les Paul Custom, and later on we swapped it out, and a bit later I had it again for a while then he got it back and it disappeared into the cosmos, never to be seen or heard in my family again.
 
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Post by whitefang on Aug 29, 2020 9:35:50 GMT -5
HA! So....that's you sittin' there....the BRUCE DERN looking kinda guy? Y'all seemed to have much better equipment than we had in any band I was in. The guitar I had(the only electric I ever owned) was a cheez-o '67 Kalamazoo KG. Cost $72.95 brand new at Grinell Brothers. Came with a table top radio sized amp that gave out by mid '68. No photos of any of those bands though. And like I pointed out a few times in a few threads in the old Musicplayer forum, those bands I was in were usually mostly the same personnel, just a constant rotation of bass players( Until finally we got Rob in early '69) and band name changes every month it seemed. Whitefang |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 14:05:57 GMT -5
The photo above proves that I once had hair......  |
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Post by whitefang on Aug 30, 2020 9:43:42 GMT -5
Yeah. I have pictures like that too. Like when I was in the hospital, a few great nieces and nephews came into my house to help their grandmothers( my sisters in law) keep the place straightened out and some wondered, "Who's that SKINNY guy standing next to Aunt La-La?"( the name my wife was known by). And registered surprise that it was me. Much slimmer than now, AND with thicker hair on top!  When I did wedding photography, I had to keep thinking of ways to get subjects to show a natural looking smile. The best way was to find something to say to make them laugh a bit. One line I used often was to tell them--- " OK, stand real still and smile nice because we want these pictures to look good for when 20 or so years from now, you look good for when your kids look at the wedding album and laugh at your hair-dos" Whitefang |
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Post by jbone on Aug 30, 2020 16:52:58 GMT -5
I gave up the war some few years ago. I buzz my hair to about 1/4 inch. What's left of it! Which is white! In younger days it was blonde, but fine and thin. I looked terrible as a hippie with a pony tail.
Also too, I was at 165-170 for years before retirement approached. Partly due to quitting smoking and partly due to not as much exercise, I'm at 205 or so now. Mostly around my middle. (Snake swallowed a soft ball!)
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Post by whitefang on Aug 31, 2020 9:53:32 GMT -5
I'm gonna post this again. But some time ago I mentioned since the increase of my girth I quit playing my Epiphone acoustic while standing up using a strap because that added girth made it look as if I was playing a guitarron! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 18:21:44 GMT -5
Y'all seemed to have much better equipment than we had in any band I was in. I was playing a Peavey 50 watt hybrid tube/solid state amp, at that party (My very first time playing in front of folks) and in the middle of the set I blew the amp up, and while it was at it, the amp blew the speaker too (design flaw they fixed it for free) I had to ride home an hour back and forth to get my other amp an all tube Music Man. I was a union bricklayer at the time so I could afford any equipment that I wanted within reason. The pay I made back in the day back then, would equal sixty bucks an hour these days. If I was in business at that time, I was making even more than the union spot, I had a partner in the biz and we used to make a grand every few days each doing concrete flat work. This is back in the 1960's or early 70's so that was real money for the times. I spent like a dunkin sailor. |
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Post by whitefang on Sept 1, 2020 9:56:24 GMT -5
Well see, there's the big difference. When I was jammin' with the bands I was in we were all still in high school and if any of us worked it was for minimum wage(IF that) so money for band equipment was scarce. And none of us had the kind of parents who indulged our every whim and only thought of our involvement in these bands as a nice distraction that kept us off the streets. And felt( and hoped) we would tire of it and eventually, after graduating high school, go somewhere and get " real jobs"! Whitefang |
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Post by tinsmith on Sept 2, 2020 7:26:49 GMT -5
One night I borrowed a guitar, someone was playing 5 chords and I learned them that night....
I stayed up all night, drove my parents crazy and stumbled through Hey Joe to the guy I borrowed the guitar from the next day, so it was Hey Joe.
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Post by tinsmith on Sept 2, 2020 7:31:39 GMT -5
How come I can't start a thread?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2020 10:31:48 GMT -5
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anyway.....
