Post by jbone on Apr 10, 2018 6:33:22 GMT -5
This is going to be a discussion about ethics and permissions. Use of images without consent.
Over recent years we have gone to see an big name artist a couple of times, and the Peabody in St. Louis and again at the Orpheum in Memphis. Both times the stage was blacked out for the entire show except the bows at the end. The reason being that people were taking photos and cell phone videos without permission and posting them on line. Not only does this affect an artist's ability to profit from his work, it seriously subtracted from others' enjoyment of a show they paid good money for and took some effort to travel to that venue.
Along about this same time period, Jawbone and Jolene were playing as street musicians at a fest in Arkansas. You know the one. We had been invited to play in front of a business on Cherry Street there. Two scenarios arose out of that appearance at a later date.
1) A guy with a camera was taking pictures of us performing, and later posted pictures of us on line. I emailed him and asked if we could use these images to promote our product, ie use them to show potential users of our act and/or buyers of our CD's. He emailed back and asked only that we give credit where due.
2) More recently we noticed more pictures from the same time, being sold on another guy's website. Jo recalls that she went over to this person after our set and asked if he'd gotten any good shots of us. He replied that he had not taken any photos of us. Yet 2+ years later images of us from that set appeared on his website for sale. They may have been there for some time without us noticing but that's not relevant. There are at least two other bands' images for sale there as well.
The question is, do you think the second guy is being ethical? Is he within his rights selling images he denied making of us?
Trademark issues may come into play here. WE have not trademarked our duo name or any images. Now I begin to wonder if we should. It could turn expensive on us to do this and we're retired and on a fixed income, so it could have other consequences. Yet is seems unsavory that images of us doing our work are being sold with no permission, credit, or compensation.
Any thoughts or opinions are welcome.
Over recent years we have gone to see an big name artist a couple of times, and the Peabody in St. Louis and again at the Orpheum in Memphis. Both times the stage was blacked out for the entire show except the bows at the end. The reason being that people were taking photos and cell phone videos without permission and posting them on line. Not only does this affect an artist's ability to profit from his work, it seriously subtracted from others' enjoyment of a show they paid good money for and took some effort to travel to that venue.
Along about this same time period, Jawbone and Jolene were playing as street musicians at a fest in Arkansas. You know the one. We had been invited to play in front of a business on Cherry Street there. Two scenarios arose out of that appearance at a later date.
1) A guy with a camera was taking pictures of us performing, and later posted pictures of us on line. I emailed him and asked if we could use these images to promote our product, ie use them to show potential users of our act and/or buyers of our CD's. He emailed back and asked only that we give credit where due.
2) More recently we noticed more pictures from the same time, being sold on another guy's website. Jo recalls that she went over to this person after our set and asked if he'd gotten any good shots of us. He replied that he had not taken any photos of us. Yet 2+ years later images of us from that set appeared on his website for sale. They may have been there for some time without us noticing but that's not relevant. There are at least two other bands' images for sale there as well.
The question is, do you think the second guy is being ethical? Is he within his rights selling images he denied making of us?
Trademark issues may come into play here. WE have not trademarked our duo name or any images. Now I begin to wonder if we should. It could turn expensive on us to do this and we're retired and on a fixed income, so it could have other consequences. Yet is seems unsavory that images of us doing our work are being sold with no permission, credit, or compensation.
Any thoughts or opinions are welcome.