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Post by tomd on Nov 21, 2015 20:25:06 GMT -5
Very cool! I always liked the Dead with Pigpen.
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Post by rooster on Nov 23, 2015 8:22:30 GMT -5
Well, this thread has carried on for quite a while now. Since I've been gone for a bit, I'll try to play catch up.
I was was never much into the Dick's Picks (and later Dave's Picks) releases, mostly because I was listening to and collecting the Grateful Dead long before the series began and it always seemed that I already had (like most Dead Fans) the released shows as Bootlegs (which at the time were sanctioned by the band). To my ears, the Bootlegs sounded better than the Official releases. Of course that may have just been because I had been listening to them for years and because the official releases weren't always as complete as the Bootlegs.
I can't really speak to the official live releases because I didn't really keep up with them (although I do own a few), unlike Talk Music member Kate, who seems to have a pretty much encyclopedic knowledge of them (and who doesn't seem to have been on the forum for an even longer period of time than me). I wish she'd come back. I think we'd have plenty of Dead-related things to converse about.
The periods I enjoy are multitudinous. The more obvious ones, of course, include Spring 1977, Spring 1990, 1972 and Fall 1973. I also enjoy a lot of the 1980's and 1990's shows (a somewhat maligned period), because they seemed to play songs from across their career. I also love about 95% of the shows from the Pigpen era. Every fan of the Grateful Dead has an era that's special to them. It's been my experience, when talking to younger fans, that the younger they are the more likely they are to prefer the "Song-based Era" (1970's and later) than the "Jam-based Era" (1966-1969), but that's just my observation and may have no basis in fact.
As for the Dead with Jazz related guests, the Branford Marsalis shows were always great. They also played with Ornette Coleman & Charles Lloyd (and probably others...a debate continues about that). In addition, Vince Guaraldi would sometimes jam with the group in San Francisco, but I've never found any recorded evidence (he's in the photo on the back of the "Aoxomoxoa" LP, Then again, so is Courtney Love of the band Hole, although she was a child at the time). rooster
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Post by JamesP on Nov 23, 2015 9:06:03 GMT -5
Country music, strictly speaking? No. The approach is too funky, the lyrics too ruminative and obscure. But the basic themes — 10 variations on "I'm home," "I'm comin' home" and "Lord, what tribulations stand between me and my home?" — certainly fit. And the sound is about as close as they got, leaving behind the black-hole explorations of the previous year's Live/Dead for something acoustic and pure. The wildest thing here, aside from the suggestion of words that glow like sunshine, is the twang of a pedal-steel guitar, which Garcia had bought on a tour stop in Denver. Lest you forget that Merle Haggard was from Oildale and Buck Owens settled in Bakersfield, the band reminds you: California, for all its coastline, is an agricultural state that can be as country as Texas. M.P. Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/50-rock-albums-every-country-fan-should-own-20141112/grateful-dead-american-beauty-1970-20141112#ixzz3sK7JpsRv Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook
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Post by rooster on Nov 23, 2015 11:08:05 GMT -5
The Grateful Dead's Country-styled songs are some of the most beloved of the early 1970's era. They did play legitimate country songs in a live context fairly often from 1969 onwards. Here's a few Country covers off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more that my faulty memory can't come up with.
Porter Waggoner:
Green, Green Grass Of Home
Merle Haggard:
Okie From Muskogee Mama Tried Sing Me Back Home
Hank Williams:
You Win Again
George Jones:
The Race Is On
Loretta Lynn:
You Ain't Woman Enough
Dolly Parton:
Tomorrow Is Forever
Wanda Jackson:
Silver Threads and Golden Needles
Marty Robbins:
El Paso
Johnny Cash:
Big River
Kris Kristofferson:
Me & Bobbie Mcgee
rooster
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Post by JamesP on Dec 13, 2015 9:15:37 GMT -5
ANY AGREEMENT?
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Post by rooster on Dec 14, 2015 15:33:36 GMT -5
I think the top ten Garcia solos is way too subjective to agree or disagree with. Every fan probably has some favorites. If you ask ten fans for their top ten, you'll get ten different answers. For myself, I was always more interested in how they played together as a group than in any one member's individual contribution. When the Grateful Dead were firing on all cylinders, "magic" happened. Some nights they just couldn't seem to get it together, but when they did, man, what a ride.
rooster
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