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Post by JamesP on Mar 29, 2017 16:35:58 GMT -5
When you hear the term Classic Rock, what artist/band comes to mind?
Stones
Z Z Top
Metallica
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Post by whitefang on Apr 22, 2017 5:57:36 GMT -5
Wow. Thought THIS one would be busier too. Usually, when I hear (or read) the term, I think it's just a kinder way of saying "oldies". But when the "classic rock" station started up in my area, it played mostly the stuff us "boomers" dug in the late '60's. And of course, as the years wore on, it now plays tunes from the late '80's. But yeah, mostly I think of some of those bands/artists(and songs) that saw little if any AM radio play from "the day". Like: The Grateful Dead Canned Heat Country Joe and The Fish Spirit Jeff Beck Traffic Jethro Tull Ten Years After Mike McGear Cactus MC5 You could also include many others who had songs that DID get some AM time, but a "classic rock" station would(and should) concentrate on those LP tracks that weren't label designated as "singles". Like, you'd hear "White Room" by Cream on AM, but never "Politician" or "Born Under A Bad Sign", "Train Time" etc. Whitefang
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Post by JamesP on Apr 22, 2017 9:05:14 GMT -5
AC/DC
Aerosmith
How about The Beatles?
And is Southern Rock considered Classical?
For me, Classical Rock includes all of these.
CCR
Even Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley
C'mon, let's discuss
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Post by earleg on Apr 22, 2017 20:42:06 GMT -5
Cream, Stones, Free, Mountain, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Kinks, Buffalo Springfield, Byrds, Moby Grape, ZZ Top and all the ones posted. I guess the '80s and '90s artists are in there as well. I always go to the '60s - '70s ones. Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley are there but always see them as Rock n' Roll just like Little Richard and Jerry Lee Lewis.
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Post by Major on Apr 23, 2017 5:46:53 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones played Blues/Rock, not classic rock. Metallica play metal, not classic rock. Jethro Tull play Folk/Rock, not classic rock. Canned Heat were a blues band. Chuck Bery and Bo Diddley played the Blues. Classic rockers are; AC/DC Aerosmith Nickleback Asia Blackstone Cherries Arena link
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Post by Major on Apr 23, 2017 5:54:17 GMT -5
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Post by Major on Apr 23, 2017 5:57:01 GMT -5
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Post by whitefang on Apr 23, 2017 6:32:38 GMT -5
"Classic rock" seems to be more of subjective term, Major. Not a genre. Beatles, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddly and them can and are often heard(among a lot of others) on any "oldies" station. "oldies" are mostly what JamesP referred to as "classical" rock. There's no real arbitrary cut-off date, so it's an open ended situation. The "classic rock" radio station I mentioned will play Beatles tunes that go back to when they first started here in the U.S., Stones too. But any OTHER "Invasion" groups, like The Dave Clark Five, Herman's Hermits, Gerry and The Pacemakers, etc. , wound up on the "oldies" station. The word "classic" can mean both "old" or refer to a level of quality, so you could say ALL rock'n'roll is "classic". Whitefang
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Post by JamesP on Apr 23, 2017 7:34:29 GMT -5
This is the point I was trying to make with this thread. Almost every genre/style of music seems to have a lot of subjective opinion in their definitions.
What one calls classic rock depends on that person's opinion.
Am I right in wrong?
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Post by whitefang on Apr 23, 2017 12:45:52 GMT -5
We would have to (and it isn't likely) hunt down the guy who coined the phrase and ask HIM what he intended to mean by it. But, my cable TV service has a group of 30 or so music channels that offer that many genres, and (on my service) channel 517 offers "classic rock". The longest I ever had it on was about an hour or so, and in that time, no song older than say, 1967 was heard. Mostly it plays stuff limited to the late '60's and the '70's. I don't know if THAT time period is what was qintessentially meant by "classic" rock or not. But just what THEY do. Leaving it up to the person's opinion makes things difficult. For instance, ask my daughter, and she'll tell you HER definition of "classic" rock is anything starting from when MTV started and videos became the big thing until she reached her 30th birthday in '05. My WIFE, if asked, and ten years my senior, would insist it's the '55-'65 period. When most "boomers" consider it the "oldies" period. Then again, if you go by the QUALITY definition, then ANY decade since rock'n'roll began qualifies. Whitefang
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Post by Major on Apr 23, 2017 14:37:34 GMT -5
I think it's a genre, but it may have a different meaning in America. To call a blues song like say any track off Heartbreaker by Free is just wrong to me.
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Post by JamesP on Apr 23, 2017 16:18:05 GMT -5
I think it's a genre, but it may have a different meaning in America. To call a blues song like say any track off Heartbreaker by Free is just wrong to me. Now we need to define what are Blues? +1 Fang...for the comment on tracking down the first person to coin the phrase
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Post by whitefang on Apr 25, 2017 9:41:25 GMT -5
I actually think the confusion came in when radio stations started playing what THEY call "classic rock", and to ME, that says "format" not "genre". Like, what's known to many as "Smooth Jazz" is really just jazz. Same with "Soft Rock". It's ROCK. For both it's just a matter of how a particular song/tune is played. You could say The Beatles' "A Hard Day's Night" is "Rock", but also make a claim that their "If I Fell" is "Soft" rock. Initially, they're BOTH rock'n'roll songs. Allegorically, you could say that some pidgeons don't MIND being put in a hole. But more prefer to break out of it and fly free. Whitefang
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Post by Major on Apr 28, 2017 4:00:17 GMT -5
I actually think the confusion came in when radio stations started playing what THEY call "classic rock", and to ME, that says "format" not "genre". Like, what's known to many as "Smooth Jazz" is really just jazz. Same with "Soft Rock". It's ROCK. For both it's just a matter of how a particular song/tune is played. You could say The Beatles' "A Hard Day's Night" is "Rock", but also make a claim that their "If I Fell" is "Soft" rock. Initially, they're BOTH rock'n'roll songs. Allegorically, you could say that some pidgeons don't MIND being put in a hole. But more prefer to break out of it and fly free. Whitefang The Beatles did not play rock, they were the first ever 'Progressive' band.
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Post by whitefang on Apr 28, 2017 8:04:43 GMT -5
I'd agree that after a few short years what they did WAS in essence "progressive" rock, but they BEGAN as a rock'n'roll band. I wouldn't necessarily call "I Saw Her Standing There" PROGRESSIVE, but IS a real good ROCK'N'ROLL tune! Whitefang
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